Oh and Bushmills was NOT licensed to distill in 1608Thats marketing Bullshit. Though I guess thats for a different forum. . Redbreast IS great for sipping (especially for the price) and Powers Gold is fine too. No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys? You claim that it is an Irish-American phenomenon, however up in the six counties Catholics drink Jameson and Prod-Brits drink Bushmills there is even a bit of violence attached to it. Just setting the record straight. It is all quite harmonious between the distilleries. About 5 or 6 years ago they flooeded Irish bars with it just before St. Paddys Day,almost forcing bars to sell off a lot of free stock they received. Though Bushmills is the #2 Irish whiskey in the U.S., Tullamore Dew is #2 Irish whiskey (after Jameson) worldwide, so not too surprising that you would see it most places. I tried Bushmills a couple of years ago and was surprised to find I liked it a lot, too. There were licenses to distill granted in and around the Bushmills area in 1608. Patrick Irish whiskey tends to be a lighter style of whiskey than Scotch or American whiskies, but that doesnt mean its necessarily lower in quality. I came to mention Powers- it seems my work is done. And not to get too specific, but given the choice, Irish Canandian Dry in the clear glass bottle (opposed to the green bottle or Finches). He said Jameson trucks it up there when Jameson is at capacity, and Bushmills has the resources to do it. It is the same oppression that the Hungarians did to the Slovaks over the ages!!!!! Delicious. Along with a fellow sipper we have over most of the Irish brands listed here in this thread as part of a 30+ years Christmas gift exchange and tasting session. Finish @Allen: I think it show more the bigoted nature of your tour guide than it does Bushmills. Who do I believe, the man who raised me, or some drunk I met in a bar? A Mac computer geek thats too young to retire and too old for male prostitution. Like seriously you hate us so much you wont drink our whiskey??? Im also a bit confused on the cheap part. Shortly after reading this post I dropped by Mortons to see a bartender friend. But Funny how these things work out, innit? John Jameson was Pentecostal. Palate Not one of ya mentions Knappogue Castle. I even have taken a liking to Bushmills Irish Honey when Im in a cocktail mood.Not being Irish and not wanting to get political. [4] At the time of his visit, the distillery was home to five pot stills, two of which with capacities of 25,000 gallons, were amongst the largest ever built. Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. Catholic fiction teaches us then how to better read the Bible, which demands the both/and reading of the letter and spirit. I answered, Episcopalian because we think of ourselves as both and neither. The good news is I dont have to worry about car bomb in Hicktown. In whiskey world Northern Ireland is considered to be part of the irish island so no reason to judge Bushmills to be protestant or not. I dont give a rip shit about religion and in fact LOATHE the typical evangelical protestant types like Swaggart, Murdoch etc. The situation is ridiculous. Potatoes for supper Paid 10 Euro for a shot of it in Dublin, and well worth the price. Spent the rest of the week getting to know Irish whiskey & came home w/ small bottles of Irish Whiskeys I wasnt sure I could get in the US so I could continue my coyage of discovery at home. As of 2016, Paddy is the fourth largest-selling Irish whiskey in the World. Eamonn, I thought all that was in the past and your country moved on? Currently rumored to be building a new distillery, Well, I already put my two cents in well up the thread, but here is some topical good news for the distillery in the North2013 Spirit of the Year: Bushmills http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Having just had this discussion with my buddy who was bribed with a bottle of Bush to express his love of it via twitter (which he refused, good man that he is) I have to say the following-. In later years I looked more into my family history and came to realize that my Fathers family were local Baptists and my Mothers were Czech Catholics. Hi all, please dont reinforce past troubles by making brand choices based on hatred. You are a great person to forgive and forget the horrible crime that were personal committed against you. I had the 15yr old Kilbeggan during a visit at the Cooley distillery a few years back, and it was damn tasty. The Roman Catholic Church responded to the Protestant challenge by purging itself of the abuses and ambiguities that had opened the way to revolt . As for those Tyrconnell expressions: major thumbs up. It retails slightly cheaper than Jameson in the US, at $16 a bottle. Catholics and Protestants have a different view on the nature of the church. I drink it often . Ive worked my way through nearly all the brands mentioned here and yet consistently return to my beloved Jameson 12 neat. ** Enjoy your whiskey and spare a kind word for everyone. Delicious, soothing, contemplative. say more. This is quite common from what I hear, and yet another argument in opposition of politicizing these two whiskies. Really liked Knockando but I havent seen it around in some time. Talk about confused. Believe in the Trinity of God. Tulley Dew 10 Year Single Malt! My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. Just got back from Dublin yesterday & loved reading the post & all the comments here. Believe in the Trinity of God. The Protestant Reformation was a religious, social, economic, and political revolution that was sparked when a Catholic monk named Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of his local . I dont generally buy it, but Ill drink it without complaint. I no longer consider myself Catholic, btw. It has earned a permanent place in my cabinet right next to my Glenrothes 1995 which I prefer over all the other SM brands including MacAllan 18 & 25. Have a good one. The young fella attending to the store asked if I wanted Catholic or Protestant then he placed a two bottles of Bushmills on the counter one plain and one Black label. Looking for Irish Whiskey to use in a recipe for bread pudding I paid a visit to our local liquor store and inquired as to the best Irish Whiskey available. Currently sipping on a Writers Tears neat & have two types of Teeling, The Irishman single malt, The Irishman Founders Reserve, a 12 y/o Redbreast, a GreenSpot single pot, a Powers John Lane Release, a Middleton Barry Crockett Legacy, a 12 y/o Jameson Special Reserve, & a Green Spot still to try. March 17, 2016 / 1:00 PM / CBS San Francisco. But it was mentioned in passing at several rural pubs in co. Mayo and Sligo that Bushmills was loyalist swill, all in good fun Im sure but its not limited to plastic paddies. But my personal preference is Redbreast, a twelve-year pot still Irish whiskey produced at the Old Midleton Distillery and a real delight to sip while enjoying a late-night Irish breakfast of sausage, egg, pudding and soda bread. This article is based on a paper delivered at the American Catholic Historical Association conference However, some of the buildings have been incorporated into the National College of Art and Design, and are now protected structures. It was also the period during which the Roman Catholic Church, as an entity distinct from other . The whiskey was originally produced in Tullamore, County Offaly, Ireland, at the . My wife has just blown raspberries on my belly whilst Ive been reading this crap seriously it doesnt matter which type of sky fairy you believe in bushmills black label vs tulamore dew is a close run thing and depends on how and what mood youre in rather that some stupid pagan affiliation. Literal Meaning. This must be one of the most pointless debates I have seen in a long time. Dont be so ignorant as to think about whether a whiskey is protestant or catholicidiot. red breast is my favorite single pot still whisky!! Maybe they will bottle the Cork supply in Tullamore in the interim. Powers' Morte d'Urban, for example, the novel may strike you as the slightly humorous failures of an all-too worldly priest. [6] In 1855, his son Sir James Power, laid the foundation stone for the O'Connell Monument,[3] and in 1859 became High Sheriff of Dublin. best bang for your buck for a sipping whisky. If you guys can get your hands on Kilbeggan, it will not disappointI only recently discovered it and thought Id share. Prom_STar 9 yr. ago Love a pleanty As for the religious differences, its always been easier for those not in the mess (in the US, England) to say and perpetuate things over that of those who have to suffer the views and manipulations of outsiders. Ian Paisley MP, Euro MP and MLA; universally known Doctor No. While John Jameson was most likely a Protestant, his distillery in Dublin represented the Free State mentality and did not suffer from bigoted hiring practices. I will second the Powers recommendation to add some turf to the fire. Tullamore Dew has lemon notes with wood undertones, whereas Jameson has a light . I grew up in NYC with this popular myth engrained on my conciousness. All appointments are made solely on the basis of merit.. wear my orange on St. Patricks And I obviously know alot about it being from Ireland and the horrific scenes of the troubles. Funny. Love Black Bush but Jamesons Gold Reserve gets my vote as the very best Ive had. Im leaving this post up as an archive, but I encourage you to read that article first, and if you, As far as Im concerned, springtime is Dark and Stormy season. Entries are still open for the 2023 San Fr, This weekend, we hiked to the site of a natural ca, Valentines Day. Soon after, in a bold move, Irish Distillers decided to close all of their existing distilleries, and to consolidate production at a new purpose-built facility in Midleton (the New Midleton Distillery) alongside their existing Old Midleton Distillery. Very easy arrangement. Privacy Policy | Those of us that still drink enjoy guinness as our beer Jamesons too is lovely. I also like Writers Tears, Bushmills and the Redbreast (12 more so than the 15). Never once was I presented with a this is the north, or this is Ireland like many seem to believe in the States. In April I went to Jerusalem. But the Bushmills Distillery Reserve, a bottle of which my very, very good sister recently brought back as a gift from Belfast, is holy smoking delicious good. The spelling of whisk(e)y is actually a bit up in the air as far as that pesky e goes. The version that Im familiar with is, of course Jamison is Catholic and Bushmills is Protestant. The old make, which we drank with our luncheon, was delicious, and finer than anything we had hitherto tasted. Fast forward 60 years. I remember back in my younger days hearing of the Troubles and feeling for those involved and I felt mostly for the Catholics. Powers gold label is absolute shit. @Allen: Thats just my point. Dear sir, I know you did a bit onSangrita, but I was wondering if you have a good recipe for Sangria. Prefer the Irish whiskeys but never met a single malt I didnt savor. I hear that William Grant & Sons has a contract with LDI to have Tullamore Dew produced in Cork until 2025, so they will have to either be creative to release anything from the new distillery or have some mighty fine aged whiskey come the latter half of the next decade. The regular is fine; the Black Bush is nice if maybe too refined for me when I want a dram of Irish. Now I need to locate Redbreast! It has been my favorite since discovering it at the Buena Vista Cafe in San Francisco. I am not trying to be offensive here, but really, it is just so dumb. This was the time when Protestantism, through its definitive break with Roman Catholicism, arose to take its place on the Christian map. You say What can one expect from people [Italians] who prefer grappa to the true Water of Life?, To continue the original theme of this thread religion IMO, grappa proves the existence of God. But that's merely based on geography: Bushmills is from Northern Ireland (a predominantly Protestant region) and Jameson is from Cork - Catholic country. Liquorice-like sherry notes In particular the 1951 offering of which Ive never tasted its superior. The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. Also, you ask what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon? Now I have a different taste preference and enjoy Bushmills in the warmer months and back to Jameson when it gets a chill in the air. Regarding the Catholic/Protestant/Jewish/Corn Beef relationship, Man is walking down the street in Belfast. The Plantation of Ulster is when the King of England gave lands away in Northern Ireland to the English that originally belonged to the Irish. This is now a historical landmark. [16], Last edited on 15 February 2023, at 23:21, "Account of Number of Gallons of Wash distilled in Scotland and Ireland, 1826-27", "Deaths Registered in the District of Killiney", "Main Driver of Recovery of Distillery Industry - Obituary: Frank O'Reilly 1922-2013", "Whiskey Bible Awards for Powers Jameson", Whiskey Distilling: a Part of Dublin's Industrial Heritage (1977), https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Powers_(whiskey)&oldid=1139599779, Powers 12 year old reserve, Powers Three Swallow, Powers Signature Release, Powers John's Lane Release, Powers Irish Rye, Powers 12-year-old Special Reserve, 40% ABV, a blend of 1221-year-old whiskeys with a high pot still content, matured in ex-Bourbon and sherry casks, Powers Three Swallow Release, 43.2%, single pot still, matured mainly in ex-Bourbon casks, with some input of whiskey matured in, Powers Signature Release, 46%, single pot still, matured mainly in ex-Bourbon casks, with some input of whiskey matured in Oloroso Sherry casks, Powers John's Lane Release, 46%, single pot still, 12-year-old, matured mainly in ex-bourbon casks, with some input of whiskey matured in Sherry casks, Powers Irish Rye, 43.2%, triple distilled in a column still, non age statement, matured in a selection of American oak virgin casks and ex-bourbon casks, with the rye sourced from Co. Wexford, This page was last edited on 15 February 2023, at 23:21. Im not sure that it says anything more than that it isnt a strictly American argument. @Eamonn: always good to hear from a Dubliner. I often wonder why those Irish-Americans (usually in Irish bars of Boston or New York)who bring up this absurd and frankly bigoted discussion about Protestant & Catholic whiskey do not apply the same rule when it comes to drinking that most Irish of drinks Guinness. Of course with these kind of things mud tends to stick and some Irish-Americans wouldnt let the facts get in the way of a good anti-British story. Personal life experience. In Ireland theyd drink either, but rarely had enough money for more than a pint o the local beer. Anyhow, being 2nd generation American with grandparents from Greece, Ireland & England, I come from a long line of short, fat, peasant stock (with alcoholic tendencies, thank you). stupid fucks In response, Guzzi This bill . These are the books and tools I use every single day to make drinks at home and behind the bar. While Redbreast is great, wonderful stuff, dont ever pass up a chance to sample their self-titled Middleton. Just a point, Jameson is traditionally a Dublin Whiskey, originally distilled and blended in Bow Street in dublins Smithfield. They are just businesses making whiskey. Why not stop purchasing rum to protest Spanish aggression while you are at it. Heres the real question why does everyone insist on handing us shots of jameson late night in colorado? The root of this myth lies in the fact that Bushmills is located in the predominately Protestant and still British Northern Ireland. I drink and enjoy both, but based on my experience(s) in Ireland lets just say watching you order a Bushmills in Dublin would be very entertaining. Thanks, Mike. It has shaped Ireland's agriculture, literature, song and now, more than ever - our economy.. 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