Who sodomises a 12 year old girl and batters her about the head, then shoots her twice in the chest? Pinterest. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. ', Sister of murdered Idaho student Kalyee Goncalves gives birth to baby girl and gives it middle name 'MaddieKay' in tribute to her and slain best friend Maddie Mogen, CDC issues 'serious public health alert' over nationwide spike in drug-resistant stomach bug that infects half a million Americans each year, Mark Walhberg is SLAMMED for presenting SAG Award to Asian cast of Everything Everywhere All At Once following his hate crime conviction for assaulting Asian men in 1988. Advertisement. However, a lack of hard evidence would later see him freed. VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED. The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. There are, of course, other theories regarding who was lying in wait on that fateful day. ADVERTISEMENT BY ANCESTRY.COM. Hi Neil I have spoken to former D.C.I Paul Bethel and given him this information. Elizabeth Muriel Greenshields Drinkwater . The Photo Request has been fulfilled. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. Was a local stalking Muriel? Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. I contacted D.S. From the statements of the day it appeared her mum was making a pot of tea and looked out the window and actually saw Muriel about 500 yards away coming up the track towards the farmhouse. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. Todays' video is about the true crime story of the unsolved murder of 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946. She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive. Although the decision was made immediately it took nearly 7 weeks until 16 August 2021 to get a formal decision. [12][13], For more than a decade, Welsh true crime author Neil Milkins theorised that notorious child murderer Harold Jones (19061971) was responsible for the murders of both Martin and Drinkwater. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home she was murdered. ', Glamorgan Police and men of the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit make a break for a meal during their search for evidence after her murder on June 27, 1946, Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. profiling. There was a camp a mile away in Grovesend. Published: 08:03 EST, 1 May 2019 | Updated: 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. Roll on another 2 months for a denied request. On 27th June 1946 a school girl was walking through countryside on her way home. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946, Officers searching the farmland in the days after the murder, Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, A picture of the gun police believe was used, Harold Jones, a convicted child killer who was also a suspect in Muriel's killing, Ronnie Harries, the last man to be sentenced to death in Carmarthen, The book that was found in a charity shop. Forensic historian Nell Darby found similarities in the case of Muriel Drinkwater and the later Ronnie Harries farmhouse murders in old newspaper articles from the time. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. Muriel N Drinkwater (born Maker) was born on month day 1903, at birth place, to Thomas L Maker and Margaret L Maker (born Baum). Read about our approach to external linking. taken from Jones exhumed body can the police honestly say catergorically that Jones was or was not Muriels killer. It blighted my life. For Hoyles, and no doubt numerous other people in Penllergaer,every dollar spent bringing Muriels killer one step closer to justice has been a dollar well spent. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. He said, ``She was regularly seen walking, skipping and singing in the woods as she made her way each day from her home to the . [citation needed], In 2009, Welsh police began reinvestigating any link with the murder of 11-year-old Sheila Martin, who was raped and strangled 250 miles away in Sun Hill Wood, Fawkham Green, Kent, on 7 July 1946, ten days after Drinkwater's murder. 'Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case. Video, 00:00:36Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Interesting insights! Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Hi Christine. Have a great week! Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret ( ne Morgans) Drinkwater. It doesnt take much working out who the unnamed source with South Wales Police was! Posted by 8 minutes ago. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. I agree with the killer being male and the suggested age range. Neil Milkins. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a known serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Follow. Her murder became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. I really appreciate how youre helping keep the true crime community informed on whats going on behind the scenes in this frustrating and heartbreaking case. Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. There is no doubt about that.". Casey DeSantis says Ron looked like Tom Cruise in his white Navy uniform when then got married at Disney: Florida's First Family says venue was an 'ironic' choice, Ron DeSantis claims former Disney CEO Bob Chapek privately complained to him about the 'pressure' he was under from woke Left to wade in on Florida's 'Don't say gay' bill. <p>The school bus dropped Muriel Drinkwater at her usual stop, leaving her to walk the last part of her journey home to the family farm in Penllergaer, West Wales. There are far too many retired people out there who want to write books about unsolved murders, trawling through these records and coming up with half-baked theories.. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. "(The murder) turned our family upside down and has been talked about through the generations. What a big moment in this case! Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. [4], More than 3,000 mourners attended Drinkwater's funeral on 2 July. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. Video, 00:00:42, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. [8], Last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11, List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom, "Marwolaeth merch yn parhau'n ddirgelwch", "The Muriel Drinkwater case: can they crack the coldest murder case? She was sexually assaulted and strangled and last seen with an American soldier. Her route to her family's home Tyle-Du Farm entailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. They have a suspect in the murder case and a cousin of the suspect has given D.N.A to prove whether or not the cousin Ron Harries was the killer. All Rights Reserved. A familial DNA profile was extracted using a technique called Y-STR, but no match was found in the national DNA database. On his way home, he passed Muriel as she walked along the path. Although an extensive investigation was conducted that involved the police visiting every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles and interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire, the case that has become known as theLittle Red Riding Hood Murder remains unsolved. Importantly, though, the DNA results cleared Hoyles of any involvement in Muriels murder. More recently, however, it was tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Hi Neil. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. Hi Neil. Learn more about managing a memorial . Muriel was murdered 16 years before I was born, but it was a story I had heard from a young age. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Forensic scientist Dr Colin Dark said that the stain had been found on the lower flap of Muriel's coat. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. Wales documentary screened at 10.30pm on Sunday 8 November 2020 spent a full 5 minutes suggesting that 2 books found in a Carmarthen bookshop recently had been taken from Muriels schoolbag in 1946 as trophies by the killer. The detectives in the programme got a breakthrough when they were able to track down Muriel's relative Martin Phillips, who had been six at the time of the murder. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer, "Secrecy over 1940 murder as DNA offers new leads", "The unsolved murder of a 12-year-old brutally abused and killed", "Serial Slaying of Pretty Women Has New Scotland Yard Confused", "Detectives link Muriel Drinkwater and Sheila Martin murders", "The chilling tale of a man who bludgeoned his relatives to death with a hammer and paid the ultimate price", "The unsolved murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater and the new suspect identified", "Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murder_of_Muriel_Drinkwater&oldid=1138738141, This page was last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11. Victor said that the programme had made him suspicious as to whether Florences killer Harold Jones who had been released from a 20 year prison sentence in 1941 for the Abertillery murders was responsible for 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwaters death. Muriel's death was known at the time as the Little Red Riding Hood Murder because of the bright red coat she was wearing. A 73-year-old sample semen has conclusively disproved the theory Harold Jones was the killer of 12-year-old schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. As you know it is not possible to prove whether Harold Jones was Muriels killer by D.N.A testing Jones daughter. However, the BBC documentary Darklands shown in November 2020 identified Ronald Harries who murdered his aunt and uncle as Muriels killer, and a cousin of Harries was shown in the documentary and was expected to give DNA to prove or disprove the theory.. Nevertheless, local legend tells of how, after leaving prison, he'd return to his parents' house in Abertillery from time to time, where the sound of him playing the organ in their front room would haunt the terraced streets. Your email address will not be published. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. Two months too young to face the gallows, he was sent to Usk Prison where he sensationally confessed to the first killing, blaming the voice of a 'demon' in his head. I think it was suggested that the police thought that the family knew more than they were letting on. They never recovered. We could see it [had been] in a police station, but as it closed, where did it go next? Edith Patten had been buried in the old town cemetery and was left behind when officials relocated the graves in the 1930s. I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. "She lost sight of her for a few moments. "And we know, even though it had been 60 years since it went into storage, that it is hers. "[14][5], In 2020, the BBC One documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers suggested that Ronnie Harries could be the murderer. Do not sell or share my personal information. This post deals with sexual assault and might be triggering for some readers. . She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home, she was murdered. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? That DNA was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. Photo added by Tracey. Muriels nieces family took the books to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year. [10], Police visited every house within 150 square miles and interviewed 20,000 men in Swansea and in neighbouring Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. Dear Sir/Madam. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the. Learn more about managing a memorial . "I found the original clothing," he said. After discussing this development with Muriels niece, myself, Muriels niece and a number of of her nursing friends came to the same conclusion that if Jones daughter isnt his biological daughter then Jones could not completely rule out Jones as a suspect. Thanks again and take care. Something went wrong, please try again later. The reason given for sealing the files was that it could help the police catch the perpetrator. Neil. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA Daily Mail article, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder Sword and Scale article, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police The Sunday Times article. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Something went wrong, please try again later. It truly is baffling and I cant help but wonder what they are trying to hide (and why!). The unanswered question, however, is whether or not the killer was specifically waiting for Muriel or if any girl or woman who happened by would have made a suitable target. Muriel Drinkwater was laying on her back, one arm outstretched by her side and the other slightly raised. Muriel Drinkwater was born on January 12, 1906 in New York . Her route to her familys home Tyle-Du Farmentailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. I can be contacted at [emailprotected] or via Facebook messenger. http://www.tcbmediarights.com/screeners/dark_son.html. On the afternoon of Muriels murder, thirteen-year-old Hoyles purchased eggs from Muriels mother at their family farm. They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. Would a nephew definitely suffice to prove a link to Harol Jones and the crime scene stain on Muriels coat. But Muriel, who was known locally as 'The Little Nightingale' because of her beautiful singing voice, never made it home. Those who have not failed may not have succeeded. Advertisement. Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. In the days and weeks that followed Muriel's murder, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. Jones killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. The crime scene is a short distance from the farmhouse. But they said the results now ruled out Jones as a suspect in her murder. Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. For decades, a key person of interest in Muriels murder has been Hubert Hoyles. She was singing . Just before she entered the woods she looked up to see the farm in the distance. Well here is the TRUTH. The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? The police have a Y-STR profile from Muriels coat. 2023 The True Crime Files. In the programme, former Dyfed Powys chief constable Jackie Roberts travelled to met him and he told her how his grandparents (Muriel's parents) had changed after the murder. If you can contact [emailprotected] Id really appreciate it. 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", "Groundbreaking DNA test rules out childkiller in unsolved murder", 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. My enquiries are now complete and have led me to believe that Harold Jones would have presented a danger to young girls throughout his life All relevant information has now been presented to South Wales Police, Major Crime Review Unit,who are currently in the process of making further inquiries into the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Police and soldiers search the area for clues of Muriel's murder, A picture of Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, Freda Burnell (left) and Florence Little (right) - Jones' first victims, At 35-years-old Jones is released from prison, only to vanish. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Does his daughter have a son.? Former Detective Inspector Paul Bethell, who was in charge of South Wales Police's cold case team, explained in the documentary: "We know Muriel used to catch the school bus from the school to the gateway off the main road which led to the forestry, and then she would walk about a mile through the forestry, along the lane to the farmhouse.". The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". Child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder killer Harold Jones was or not. 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