Thailand is Cambodia's neighbor to the West, and this forum is dedicated to Thai news, stories, reviews, blogs, videos, Thai people and anything else related to the country. In 2012, 32-year-old Ben Harrington died in what Thai police said was a motorbike crash, but his parents said they became suspicious of the explanation when officers tried to cremate his body the following day. [1][31] Pornthip Rojanasunand, a Thai forensic scientist, testified at the trial that the crime scene was poorly managed. In a hastily convened press conference in Bangkok today, Prayut said: 'I'm sorry that it hurt people. The fact that there are a lot of people out there who still somehow defend them is even more unbelievable. [71], A lawyer for the men, Nakhon Chomphuchat, said "we will appeal as soon as we can, we have just got a copy of the court's verdict. A police officer told the trial of the severe injuries Miss Witheridge suffered and evidence she had been raped. We are here for David because of his tragic death. Absolutely brutal murder but I think they have the wrong people. Zaw Lin, front, and Wai Phyo (also known as Win Zaw Htun), rear, arrive at the court in Koh Samui, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. However, the event did not materially affect tourism to the island over the following years. We beg that Hannah and David are afforded privacy and dignity through the removal of these pointless and insensitive reminders. The police were under pressure to produce results quickly, which affected how they conducted their investigation. Allegations about police brutality rocked the countrys economy that almost solely relies on tourism. In September 2014, two European backpackers, Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found murdered on Sairee Beach on Thailands island of Koh Tao. I stumbled across these once a few years ago and I really wish I hadn't seen them. His parents believe he was murdered. He later apologised for the comment after it was met with public backlash. Hawara: 'What happened was horrific and barbaric'. BBC correspondent Jonah Fisher said Miss Witheridge's father and brother sat with their heads bowed as the evidence was presented in court but continued listening. [87][88] The protests angered Thailand's prime minister, who believed the demonstrations were a plot "instigated" to hurt the government. Can dementia be spotted in CHILDHOOD? "Time makes the pain of this horrendous tragedy no easier to bear," they said in a statement. The family of a woman murdered in Thailand have been "traumatised" by photos being circulated online. Aside from Hannah and David, 2014 also saw the death of Nick Pearson , 25, from Derby, who was found floating in the ocean on New Year's Day. My Facebook page is called KOH TAO DEATH ISLAND. On 15 September, the bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found on Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao, between 4 and 5 am, a few hours after their deaths.Both victims had been hit several times on the head; Witheridge had been raped, and Miller had been drowned. The investigation of the Witheridge and Miller slayings was widely criticized as the crime scene was not properly secured, and questions were also raised about subsequent DNA testing. The two men deny murdering Miss Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. The reasons for her admission to hospital have not been disclosed. It was said the pair went swimming on the same beach earlier that night, and when they got out of the water they found their clothes had disappeared. [5][6] Both were students who were backpacking in Thailand. ', By Christina Annesley 2015; Two years after her sister was murdered, Laura wrote a Facebook postwarning people not to travel to Thailand claiming Westerners are hated in the country. Their semi-naked bodies were discovered on the beach near rocks only 100 yards from the scene of the party. [42] In the trial, the prosecution said the phone was found smashed at the home of a friend of Zaw Lin's. Miller had scratches on his back and water in his lungs indicating drowning. They were arrested and tried and identified by Till's uncle. Thai police take DNA swabs and footprints of migrant workers yards from the scene of the murder of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller on the island of Koh Tao. The men displayed no emotion as they listened intently to a translator while the verdict was read at a court in the province of Nonthaburi, just north of Bangkok, the capital. [39] Following an interrogation, during which police say Zaw Lin admitted he had entered the country illegally, Zaw Lin was arrested and his clothes and motorcycle were seized as evidence. Powerful Commons committee could look at case for banning stoves in towns and Love Island hit by hundreds of Ofcom complaints from furious viewers over 'toxic femininity' row and Movie As easy as buying a loaf of bread: Undercover footage reveals how laughing gas is being sold from local Could Northern Ireland become the UK's Silicon Valley? [77], An opinion piece in Bangkok Post wrote that "practically no one believes [Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo] really brutally murdered English tourists", adding "in Thai media of all kinds, the consensus is that Win and Zaw Lin are scapegoats. It will never make any sense. In a police interview Mr Ware told officers that David then told him he was going out to get some cigarettes but another friend revealed he went instead to nightclub AC to meet up with Hannah and her friend Emma Madeline. At the end of the trial's third day, the judge said police had informed him all the samples taken on the island were "finished" - meaning they could not be analysed again. Writing poignantly on the page she said: 'The past year has thrown our lives into disarray, tarnished our trust in anything and everything and made us question humanity. On September 20, 1988, Tara Calico left her home in New Mexico to go on a bike ride she took, In November 1981, actress Natalie Wood mysteriously drowned off the coast of Southern California during a boating trip with her, In July 2014, 52 year old Lynn Messer mysteriously disappeared from her familys 260-acre farm in Bloomsdale, Missouri. Hiroshi 2002; It was just straight up sped that killed her. We'll be dignified for David. PLEASE read up on the case first before looking for the leaked photos. Hannah Witheridge seen looking relaxed and wandering streets with . Hawara: 'What happened was horrific and barbaric'. [1] Police revealed that the samples from Witheridge's body were used up,[62][27] but were able to provide DNA samples from the murder weapon. They had been bludgeoned to death. [49] Wai Phyo was also charged with stealing Miller's phone. Check r/crimescene - the two most disturbing on that was i) Little boy decapitated by his father in a murder suicide and ii) the British girl raped and murdered in Thailand. We hope you'll do the same? ai th pk vf ii pp . [31][65] Jane Taupin, an Australian forensic scientist brought in by the defence, claimed that the timeline of DNA extraction was dubious; a rapid analysis of DNA samples had happened in less than 12 hours,[34] which she said was unusual because "extracting DNA from mixed samples was difficult and time-consuming". . "Hannah was a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman who will be sorely missed by all who knew her.". She had no alcohol in her system. [51][21] The trial was attended by external observers, including representatives from Amnesty International and the UK's Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office. Hanspeter Suter 2014; [31] Media reports speculated that was because the defence was wary of calling on foreign experts fearing it could appear as undermining the Thai justice system, and could bias the judges against their case. The family said a funeral on Friday would be a private party to celebrate her life. Speaking at the court, Mr Miller's father Ian said he and his wife Sue had come "with an open mind", adding that it had been an emotional time for the family. But they have another dark side to them. Thai police have been criticised for leading a chaotic investigation into the deaths of David Miller and Hannah Witheridge in which the line of inquiry has changed several times. VideoRecord numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Jeffrey Epstein's island is becoming a tourist attraction in the Caribbean here's what the Wonder if anyone here can help. Here at Cosmo we'll be respecting the wishes of Hannah's family tomorrow, and whether it's celebrity naked photos, horrific hostage videos in Iraq and Syria or grossly inappropriate crime scene photos we'll be steering well clear of these images if we see them shared online. The Koh Tao murders involved the death of two British tourists in Thailand in 2014. I just listened to your full podcast about Koh Tao with considerable interest. Taupin was ultimately not allowed to testify by the defence, and these issues were not raised by the defence until their closing statement. She was dedicated, ambitious and would have made an amazing difference to the lives of many families through her chosen career as a Speech and Language Therapist. His remark appeared to blame murdered Briton Hannah Witheridge for exposing herself to a brutal attack on the paradise island of Koh Tao. [51][56][57] They argued that the defendants, since they were vulnerable as illegal migrant workers, were scapegoated by the police for the crime. Tony Witheridge bowed his head as bloody images of his daughter's body were shown on the third day of the trial of Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo. [1], A defence team from Bangkok, composed of nearly 20 lawyers, were only permitted half an hour to meet the men; a request by the defence to delay the hearing and allow more time to prepare was denied by a judge at the Koh Samui Provincial Court. 2040 / 2557", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koh_Tao_murders&oldid=1135707447, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 26 January 2023, at 10:00. It has over 100 hotels and resorts and was deemed the busiest diving centre in Southeast Asia in 2014. The evidence in the form of this Unendorsed Report would have been ruled as inadmissible in US courts and other Western courts. The commissioner visited the murder scene yesterday but his officers were criticised after smiling and taking selfies. They were then recorded at 12.55am leaving, stopping in a convenience store for a toasted sandwich, before walking back to their bungalow. Luke Miller, a bricklayer from the Isle of Wight, was then found dead in a pool on the island in 2016 with Thai police saying there was no evidence of foul play, despite his family saying they had received conflicting reports of events before his death. Where is Morgan from the Murdaugh Murders now? -, Press J to jump to the feed. I'm asking if they wear bikinis in Thailand, will they be safe? As of July last year, the total stood at ten. The police investigation and criminal trial were widely criticised by international media, human rights organisations, and legal experts. Is Daisy Jones adaptation based on Fleetwood Mac? [20] Both bodies were found semi-naked;[21] a pile of clothes was found nearby. 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I'm not even following that rabbit hole because all I had to read was Porsche Girl, I've seen it before and it's bad Just to clarifyshe was NOT a dui. [83] A 2016 study said the case, which it described as a litmus test of Thailand's justice system, "seriously damaged the image of Thailand and of its forces of law and order on the global level". That is the last time he is seen on camera. [10], Witheridge and Miller travelled and arrived on the island separately on 25 August. Who is Constance Marten, the runaway aristocrat? Edit: ah, I didnt realise you said crime scene photos, these were photos taken at the funeral. We are aware of the Katherine case and are checking out the possibility that something similar could have happened, he said. [63] They plead not guilty to the charge at the trial, but Wai Phyo changed his plea to guilty during the proceedings. David's body is in the water in the picture captioned 'Photo of the resort' - just saying as I missed it several times when the pics first came online. They had no prior criminal records. "We'll go with the flow as much as we can. [92], Thailand's government became concerned the murders may affect tourism to the country. Thailand's prime minister today apologised for suggesting tourists in bikinis made themselves more vulnerable - comments which provoked outrage around the world. But Ms Daniels criticised the 'bungled' police investigation into the murders in a Facebook post in January 2016. 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Most topics are about Bangkok and Pattaya because of their larger populations of expatriates and tourists in those cities, but this is for all things Thai. [15] Public prosecutors initially rejected the report, asking for "certain flaws" to be fixed, more information to be supplied, and for the report to be made "more succinct". [10][32] They highlighted a British tourist who had shared a room with Miller as a suspect, labelling it a "crime of passion"; he became the subject of a nationwide manhunt before the police quickly dropped the lead. Rex Features. As we continue with our plans for our beautiful Hannah's 'party', our thoughts are with David Miller's family who are suffering the same indescribable agony. September 17: Thai police admit they have 'no idea' who killed David Miller and Hannah Witheridge after failing to link any of 12 suspects to the crime. Immediately after the hearing, the two migrants appealed to the families of Miss Witheridge and Mr Walker, asking them to co-operate in seeking a royal pardon from the Thai king. Phyo (left) and Lin (right) were planning to appeal for a royal pardon to Thailand's king. I dont know if the killers are still on the island. They say traces of at least one man's DNA has been found on Miss Witheridge's body. Myanmar migrant workers Zaw Lin (left) and Wai Phyo (right) last month had their murder conviction for the 2014 slayings of two British backpackers upheld by Thailand's Supreme Court. [90][91], The 2014 murders, along with other deaths and disappearances of tourists, led to British tabloids labelling Koh Tao as "Death Island". She said that following her sister's death even the simplest of tasks had become impossible and said the officers assigned to their family had helped them through their darkest hours. They said it was 'difficult to say' whether the pair's killer or killers was still on the island, and then claimed investigations had pointed them to a group seen on the beach playing the guitar and singing 'western songs'. They did not seal the island, contaminated the crime scene and now have allowed these boats to get away. Wai Phyo and Zaw Lin were sentenced to death in December 2015 for the murder of David Miller and Hannah Witheridge, who were found bludgeoned to death on a beach on the island of Koh Tao in September 2014. DNA was collected from these three areas and sent to a police forensics lab for analysis. [11] The two met in Koh Tao while staying at the same hotel. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ill leave this post up anyway for anyone whos interested. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. A subreddit dedicated to the unresolved mysteries of the world. 'Can they be safe in bikinis unless they are not beautiful?' Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun were quickly arrested and later sentenced to death in 2015, a verdict that was upheld by the appeal court in 2017. However he was often duped by heartless thieves, Forgotten lottery ticket in coat pocket turns out to be life-changing $1million, Ana Elizalde bought a Powerball lottery ticket in Michigan, US and gave to her husband to keep safe. Copyright The Student Room 2023 all rights reserved. From the beginning, the Thai police had difficulty securing the crime scene. David Miller & Hannah Witheridge murdered on Thailand Island, Re: David Miller & Hannah Witheridge murdered on Thai Island, http://www.bestgore.com/murder/british- -raped-05/, http://www.bestgore.com/murder/british- -raped-01/, http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nationa 43997.html, http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news es-4402767, http://www.mizzima.com/opinion/intervie to-his-son, Epstein's island: dubbed by locals as Pedophile Island and Orgy Island. (Pics), South Africans turn to Phnom Penh private investigator Declan Miller to get home. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd. Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. Oh Yes, this one is gruesome . In a speech broadcast live on Thai TV yesterday, he said: There are always problems with tourist safety. and 'why do you care?'. [67][21][68] The conviction was primarily guided by the DNA evidence,[67][69] and the court said it did not consider their confessions in making the judgement. VideoAt the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Covid origin likely China lab incident - FBI chief, Blackpink lead top stars back on the road in Asia, Exploring the rigging claims in Nigeria's elections, 'Wales is in England' gaffe sparks TikToker's trip, Ukraine war casts shadow over India's G20 ambitions, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. [67] Protesters called for the release of the two suspects, who they believed were innocent and scapegoated for the crime. [23] Local residents blocked the pier to prevent the unidentified killers from leaving the island. [53], The prosecution's case focused on findings of the police and medical examiner, with an emphasis on the DNA evidence. Rishi Sunak is urgently reviewing his private exchanges with Matt Hancock after bombshell leak of ex-Health 'Drinks cold in fridge at DH!' [31] They focused on foreign nationals, with a spokesperson for the police claiming "Thais wouldn't do this". 11:58 GMT 20 Sep 2014 I am a legal practitioner in Perth, Western Australia who has been following events on Koh Tao very closely since the time of the murders of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller on 15 September 2014. Unfortunately, the Thai defence lawyers did not call Ms Taupin to give evidence even though she was available. Have a story or an anonymous news tip for CEO? Neither did we. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are both part of The Student Room Group. A 24-year-old Thai man has been arrested and charged by Thai police on the island of Koh Si Chang in Chonburi province following the brutal rape and murder of a 27-year-old German tourist on Sunday. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:52 am, Users browsing this forum: Google Feedfetcher, Newinkow, phuketrichard, yong and 69 guests. The bodies of Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Hemsby, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey, were found on a Koh Tao beach. An English human rights activist by the name of Andy Hall asked me to put him in touch with the Melbourne forensic expert, Jane Taupin which I did. In December 2015, the pair were convicted of the murder and sentenced to death. Prior to your posting to Thailand you must have received a report of this country in terms of its corruption, poverty, murder and crime rates. She allowed Jet magazine to print pictures of his dead body. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:23 am, Post Partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better.! 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